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	<title>Comments on: How Current Laws Suppress Craft Beer in Michigan</title>
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		<title>By: Ken Braley</title>
		<link>http://www.blogsmonroe.com/beer/2008/07/how-current-laws-suppress-craft-beer-in-michigan/comment-page-1/#comment-1130</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Braley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 03:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Todd,

Thanks for all of the great information. I am looking into opening a brew pub and am very interested in the limitations. I will research further to get a better understanding from a legal sense. Looks like I have a lot to learn in this new possible career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Todd,</p>
<p>Thanks for all of the great information. I am looking into opening a brew pub and am very interested in the limitations. I will research further to get a better understanding from a legal sense. Looks like I have a lot to learn in this new possible career.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Parker</title>
		<link>http://www.blogsmonroe.com/beer/2008/07/how-current-laws-suppress-craft-beer-in-michigan/comment-page-1/#comment-1101</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A microbrewery can sell it&#039;s beer outside of it&#039;s doors via a distributor, it can sell it&#039;s beers in a &quot;tasting room&quot; (which can be spartan or it can have food), it cannot sell booze or wine (unless they make it themselves and thus have a distillers and/or winemakers license in addition to their brewers license), and they cannot have guest beers.
A brewpub can only sell it&#039;s beer&#039;s within it&#039;s doors.  It can have guest beers, wine, and booze.  It must operate a full service kitchen with 25% of it gross sales from non-alcoholic means.
Yes, you need a beer license to sell your own brew.
FOr more info go to http://www.michigan.gov/documents/cis/Brewer-_Micro_Brewer_211769_7.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A microbrewery can sell it&#8217;s beer outside of it&#8217;s doors via a distributor, it can sell it&#8217;s beers in a &#8220;tasting room&#8221; (which can be spartan or it can have food), it cannot sell booze or wine (unless they make it themselves and thus have a distillers and/or winemakers license in addition to their brewers license), and they cannot have guest beers.<br />
A brewpub can only sell it&#8217;s beer&#8217;s within it&#8217;s doors.  It can have guest beers, wine, and booze.  It must operate a full service kitchen with 25% of it gross sales from non-alcoholic means.<br />
Yes, you need a beer license to sell your own brew.<br />
FOr more info go to <a href="http://www.michigan.gov/documents/cis/Brewer-_Micro_Brewer_211769_7.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.michigan.gov/documents/cis/Brewer-_Micro_Brewer_211769_7.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.blogsmonroe.com/beer/2008/07/how-current-laws-suppress-craft-beer-in-michigan/comment-page-1/#comment-1097</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what is the difference between a microbrewery and a brewpub?

also does anyone know if you need a beer/wine license to sell your own brew?

Thanks for any input.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is the difference between a microbrewery and a brewpub?</p>
<p>also does anyone know if you need a beer/wine license to sell your own brew?</p>
<p>Thanks for any input.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Parker</title>
		<link>http://www.blogsmonroe.com/beer/2008/07/how-current-laws-suppress-craft-beer-in-michigan/comment-page-1/#comment-1096</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Brian but except for Arbor Brewing/Corner Brewery which as I understand it is &quot;different owner&quot; type situation (e.g. loophole).  If you were thinking that New Holland&#039;s pub is a brewpub, it isn&#039;t, it is a microbrewery.  Detroit Beer Co is a brewpub and the Detroit Dwarf and Detroit Lager are contract brewed at Atwater.  Kuhnhenn, Dragonmead, Kings, Shorts, Black Lotus, Founders, and Sherwoods (and more) are all microbreweries, they may have a pub (technically a tasting room) but they are not brewpubs, they cannot sell guest beer or wine or booze (unless they make it themselves).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Brian but except for Arbor Brewing/Corner Brewery which as I understand it is &#8220;different owner&#8221; type situation (e.g. loophole).  If you were thinking that New Holland&#8217;s pub is a brewpub, it isn&#8217;t, it is a microbrewery.  Detroit Beer Co is a brewpub and the Detroit Dwarf and Detroit Lager are contract brewed at Atwater.  Kuhnhenn, Dragonmead, Kings, Shorts, Black Lotus, Founders, and Sherwoods (and more) are all microbreweries, they may have a pub (technically a tasting room) but they are not brewpubs, they cannot sell guest beer or wine or booze (unless they make it themselves).</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like a few brewers have found a way around #2 &amp; #3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like a few brewers have found a way around #2 &amp; #3.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Fid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Fid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toddo:
   Interesting historical analysis of the law in this area.  I would be interested to hear what &quot;bigger lobbies&quot; are working against your guild&#039;s lobbying efforts.  It would seem the entire restaurant/bar industry would want to overhaul all the rules in this area, since they must be subject to the hangover (pun intended) from pre-prohibition rules too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toddo:<br />
   Interesting historical analysis of the law in this area.  I would be interested to hear what &#8220;bigger lobbies&#8221; are working against your guild&#8217;s lobbying efforts.  It would seem the entire restaurant/bar industry would want to overhaul all the rules in this area, since they must be subject to the hangover (pun intended) from pre-prohibition rules too.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article!

Indiana has some crazy laws too. You can buy wine from a winery on Sunday, but you cannot buy beer from a brewpub/brewery on Sunday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article!</p>
<p>Indiana has some crazy laws too. You can buy wine from a winery on Sunday, but you cannot buy beer from a brewpub/brewery on Sunday.</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Todd, 

Thanks for this look at the legal issues.  It makes me wonder how many breweries/brewpubs we would have without these constraints.  We&#039;ve got, what, 70 breweries/brewpubs as it is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Todd, </p>
<p>Thanks for this look at the legal issues.  It makes me wonder how many breweries/brewpubs we would have without these constraints.  We&#8217;ve got, what, 70 breweries/brewpubs as it is?</p>
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