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		<title>By: Jeff Beamsley</title>
		<link>http://www.blogsmonroe.com/christianpolitics/2007/12/the-unraveling/comment-page-1/#comment-2557</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Beamsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,

Currency is ultimately a reflection of the strength of the economy.

I know that there is a lot of concern that North America will go in the direction of the European Union, but I think that the dynamics are such that it won't happen anywhere soon.

The dollar is already the dominant international currency so I'm not sure what the US would gain by introducing a new currency.

The real issue that is that the US has to solve it's energy problem.  The reason that gas is "expensive" right now is that we've flooded the market with dollars in an attempt to stave off a recession and pay our Iraq bills.  The same math is driving up the cost of precious metals like gold.  

We begin to solve our addiction to oil and get out of Iraq and those burdens will come off the economy.  As a result, it will start growing again and the dollar will regain strength.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>Currency is ultimately a reflection of the strength of the economy.</p>
<p>I know that there is a lot of concern that North America will go in the direction of the European Union, but I think that the dynamics are such that it won&#8217;t happen anywhere soon.</p>
<p>The dollar is already the dominant international currency so I&#8217;m not sure what the US would gain by introducing a new currency.</p>
<p>The real issue that is that the US has to solve it&#8217;s energy problem.  The reason that gas is &#8220;expensive&#8221; right now is that we&#8217;ve flooded the market with dollars in an attempt to stave off a recession and pay our Iraq bills.  The same math is driving up the cost of precious metals like gold.  </p>
<p>We begin to solve our addiction to oil and get out of Iraq and those burdens will come off the economy.  As a result, it will start growing again and the dollar will regain strength.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.blogsmonroe.com/christianpolitics/2007/12/the-unraveling/comment-page-1/#comment-2555</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When do you think the Feds will implement the Amero currency?
Do you think the Amero will be just as worthless as the current dollar? Do you think things will be far worse if they do bring in the Amero?

What things can we expect to see (economy, society, housing, food, energy, foreign relations ect..) when they do bring in the Amero?

If I were you I would start buying gold and silver coins which I am.
Because those coins will be worth more than the dollar and the Amero.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When do you think the Feds will implement the Amero currency?<br />
Do you think the Amero will be just as worthless as the current dollar? Do you think things will be far worse if they do bring in the Amero?</p>
<p>What things can we expect to see (economy, society, housing, food, energy, foreign relations ect..) when they do bring in the Amero?</p>
<p>If I were you I would start buying gold and silver coins which I am.<br />
Because those coins will be worth more than the dollar and the Amero.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Beamsley</title>
		<link>http://www.blogsmonroe.com/christianpolitics/2007/12/the-unraveling/comment-page-1/#comment-2355</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Beamsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 05:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erich,

Great post.

Also maybe the first joke that you've posted.  You're good at it and should post some more.

You're absolutely right in your insight.  It does say that at the end of the day, we are all doing our job to move things along.

I don't think that this is psychobabble, but I'm also not sure that it is good science.  The folks who have done the research have strong academic backgrounds and the research on which it is based has been published peer reviewed journals. 

I just find it an interesting idea since predicting the future is always a risky business.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erich,</p>
<p>Great post.</p>
<p>Also maybe the first joke that you&#8217;ve posted.  You&#8217;re good at it and should post some more.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right in your insight.  It does say that at the end of the day, we are all doing our job to move things along.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that this is psychobabble, but I&#8217;m also not sure that it is good science.  The folks who have done the research have strong academic backgrounds and the research on which it is based has been published peer reviewed journals. </p>
<p>I just find it an interesting idea since predicting the future is always a risky business.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Erich</title>
		<link>http://www.blogsmonroe.com/christianpolitics/2007/12/the-unraveling/comment-page-1/#comment-2354</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Psychobabble isn't my specialty but it is, indeed, heartening to think that the more liberal elements of society tend to reproduce good conservatives (Divine intervention, perhaps?!) 

Ron Paul in '08!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psychobabble isn&#8217;t my specialty but it is, indeed, heartening to think that the more liberal elements of society tend to reproduce good conservatives (Divine intervention, perhaps?!) </p>
<p>Ron Paul in &#8216;08!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Beamsley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Beamsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 23:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erich,

Good to hear from you again.

I'll try to get something up on some speculation regarding the crisis within the context of the Four Turnings.  I'd be interested in your input.

Your post in all other respects pretty much mirrors the sort of civic unravelling that we seem to be experiencing.

Whether you by into generational theory of not, it is an interesting way to look at history.  The tags used, by the way, are the authors and not mine.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erich,</p>
<p>Good to hear from you again.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try to get something up on some speculation regarding the crisis within the context of the Four Turnings.  I&#8217;d be interested in your input.</p>
<p>Your post in all other respects pretty much mirrors the sort of civic unravelling that we seem to be experiencing.</p>
<p>Whether you by into generational theory of not, it is an interesting way to look at history.  The tags used, by the way, are the authors and not mine.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Erich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"...the great depression which was an economic result of the unregulated economic expansion at the turn of the century."
"FDR brought a new vision of a strong central government working closely with private industry as the new social order that could solve the nation’s problems.  The crisis of WWII cemented that order as the driving force for the twentieth century"

The Great Depression was caused BY our government in collusion with the Money Lenders to bring about their vile vision of a Socialist America and fiat currency, the root of all evils.  The only cycle here was the usual power grab by the "elites" among us, undoing our social order for their own good, which has continued unabated.  Thankfully, the only thing cyclical about tryants is every one that arises eventually falls.

How is it possible to call the dupes who helped kill off hundreds of millions of their own kind to herald the new Marxist/Socialist/we'll-all-live-happily-ever-after era in Europe and here "heroes"?  Heroes don't bancrupt their countries or the God-given moral order.  "We", the current Americans, haven't even paid for WWI yet, let alone the the other UN skirmishes of the 20th and early 21st Centuries (including both Bush's Asian calamities) but the "good" government you so laud did what they felt would alleviate that little problem: they put the country, the states, and all of our personal property up for collateral.  And it's nearly time for us to pony up to pay that government's "debt".

"We discovered that the benefits of that society were not shared equally with everyone."  You can't possibly get any more communistic than that statement.  The Preamble to the Constitution of the united states uses the phrase "...all men are created equal...", but that is not a divine directive to reappropriate what little "wealth" we might have as a nation.  Governments that attempt to impose "equality", whatever that might be, aren't doing the work of God but the work of the fallen one.

"In the next post, we’ll speculate on what’s next."  No speculation required - the vaunted American Dollar and faux-economic-engine of the last century is about to implode, and the government and money-lenders already have their solution - because they already "own" us they're going to unite the currencies and governments of The US, Canada, and Mexico into a pseudo-state of the UN called the North America Union with a common, also fiat, currency called the Amero.  And they have several generations of us to thank: "the Greatest Generation" for the foothold, the beatniks for their hyperbole, the hippies for their undoing of the moral order, and the current massive increase in non-European "immigrants" for the "deep distrust of those who don’t think, act, look, or talk like us."

Welcome to "Novus Ordo Sæclorum" the "New World Order," and God help us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;the great depression which was an economic result of the unregulated economic expansion at the turn of the century.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;FDR brought a new vision of a strong central government working closely with private industry as the new social order that could solve the nation’s problems.  The crisis of WWII cemented that order as the driving force for the twentieth century&#8221;</p>
<p>The Great Depression was caused BY our government in collusion with the Money Lenders to bring about their vile vision of a Socialist America and fiat currency, the root of all evils.  The only cycle here was the usual power grab by the &#8220;elites&#8221; among us, undoing our social order for their own good, which has continued unabated.  Thankfully, the only thing cyclical about tryants is every one that arises eventually falls.</p>
<p>How is it possible to call the dupes who helped kill off hundreds of millions of their own kind to herald the new Marxist/Socialist/we&#8217;ll-all-live-happily-ever-after era in Europe and here &#8220;heroes&#8221;?  Heroes don&#8217;t bancrupt their countries or the God-given moral order.  &#8220;We&#8221;, the current Americans, haven&#8217;t even paid for WWI yet, let alone the the other UN skirmishes of the 20th and early 21st Centuries (including both Bush&#8217;s Asian calamities) but the &#8220;good&#8221; government you so laud did what they felt would alleviate that little problem: they put the country, the states, and all of our personal property up for collateral.  And it&#8217;s nearly time for us to pony up to pay that government&#8217;s &#8220;debt&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;We discovered that the benefits of that society were not shared equally with everyone.&#8221;  You can&#8217;t possibly get any more communistic than that statement.  The Preamble to the Constitution of the united states uses the phrase &#8220;&#8230;all men are created equal&#8230;&#8221;, but that is not a divine directive to reappropriate what little &#8220;wealth&#8221; we might have as a nation.  Governments that attempt to impose &#8220;equality&#8221;, whatever that might be, aren&#8217;t doing the work of God but the work of the fallen one.</p>
<p>&#8220;In the next post, we’ll speculate on what’s next.&#8221;  No speculation required - the vaunted American Dollar and faux-economic-engine of the last century is about to implode, and the government and money-lenders already have their solution - because they already &#8220;own&#8221; us they&#8217;re going to unite the currencies and governments of The US, Canada, and Mexico into a pseudo-state of the UN called the North America Union with a common, also fiat, currency called the Amero.  And they have several generations of us to thank: &#8220;the Greatest Generation&#8221; for the foothold, the beatniks for their hyperbole, the hippies for their undoing of the moral order, and the current massive increase in non-European &#8220;immigrants&#8221; for the &#8220;deep distrust of those who don’t think, act, look, or talk like us.&#8221;</p>
<p>Welcome to &#8220;Novus Ordo Sæclorum&#8221; the &#8220;New World Order,&#8221; and God help us.</p>
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