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	<title>Comments on: Hypocrisy</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff Beamsley</title>
		<link>http://www.blogsmonroe.com/christianpolitics/2008/03/15/hypocrisy/#comment-2730</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Beamsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mason,

Good to hear from you.

I didn't mean to suggest that we shouldn't hold elected officials to a higher standard.  

What I find curious is that we only hold them to a higher standard with regard to hypocrisy in their personal life.

We seem perfectly willing to forgive Dick Cheney for lying about the relationship between al Qaeda and Saddam.  We also forgave him for his vindictive reaction to Joe Wilson's editorial in the NY Times and his relationship to Haliburton.

We've forgiven President Bush for ignoring al Qaeda before 9/11, starting a war in Iraq on false pretenses, losing track of bin Laden, gutting FEMA, and creating the largest gap between the rich and poor since the great deptression.  We've also given him a pass on his past opposition to every scientific study coming out of his adminstration which supported global warming, and his promise to rebuild the gulf coast.  We also don't seem to care that we have the weakest dollar and the largest federal debt in history.

We've forgiven Alan Greenspan for both the dot com bubble and the current sub-prime meltdown.  

This is what I, and I suspect the rest of world, don't get.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mason,</p>
<p>Good to hear from you.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t mean to suggest that we shouldn&#8217;t hold elected officials to a higher standard.  </p>
<p>What I find curious is that we only hold them to a higher standard with regard to hypocrisy in their personal life.</p>
<p>We seem perfectly willing to forgive Dick Cheney for lying about the relationship between al Qaeda and Saddam.  We also forgave him for his vindictive reaction to Joe Wilson&#8217;s editorial in the NY Times and his relationship to Haliburton.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve forgiven President Bush for ignoring al Qaeda before 9/11, starting a war in Iraq on false pretenses, losing track of bin Laden, gutting FEMA, and creating the largest gap between the rich and poor since the great deptression.  We&#8217;ve also given him a pass on his past opposition to every scientific study coming out of his adminstration which supported global warming, and his promise to rebuild the gulf coast.  We also don&#8217;t seem to care that we have the weakest dollar and the largest federal debt in history.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve forgiven Alan Greenspan for both the dot com bubble and the current sub-prime meltdown.  </p>
<p>This is what I, and I suspect the rest of world, don&#8217;t get.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: MASON</title>
		<link>http://www.blogsmonroe.com/christianpolitics/2008/03/15/hypocrisy/#comment-2701</link>
		<dc:creator>MASON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Clearly all of the people involved in these incidents (men and women) displayed moral and ethical weakness, but why should this particular combination of weaknesses cause immediate and complete collapse of public trust only in this country?" 

Answ:  Perhaps we hold a higher standard than other countries,  back in the day of being involved in sports, both in high school and college, we were told that we had to have a higher standard as athletes, why shouldnt this be held the same for elected officials.  We didnt elect them to be doing monkey biz, just govt. biz.

"Why do some in this country object to Senator Clinton as a candidate because of her husband’s past indiscretions, but continue to support the current President spending $12B a week in Iraq?"

Answ:  I object to the senator, not because of the former president's indiscretions, but because she didnt have the moral courage to leave him back in his days as the Gov. of Arkansas.  She used his coattails to ride into office, the whole time he was "sitting behind a desk".  I object to her qualifications, having not served a full term in the Senate, and having resided only in the White House.  I object to her as a represenative of the people of NY, when she had never lived there prior, except to sneak in the minimum time needed to run for office.  But hey, they elected her.

"Why do we get all bent out of shape when the Mayor of Detroit’s affair (which he denied) is revealed through public disclosure of text messages, but support the President’s call for amnesty for the phone companies which allowed the government to illegally look at everyone’s text messages (and email, and phone conversations)?"

Answ:  I get "bent ouf of shape" because the man lied under oath.  He didnt just deny the accusations,  he swore in court that they were not true.  I got bent out of shape several years ago when Bubba did the same thing.  I got bent out of shape as a child when Nixon did the same thing. I had hoped for better from Newt.  If you lied in court, or I for that matter, you wouldnt be running around saying a lynch mob was after you, you would be sitting in jail.

These people are elected to represent those who take the time to make decisions and vote them in.  Their behavior should not be an issue in preventing them in doing the job that they were sent to do.  They do not represent me, and they do nothing but bring shame on themselves, their families, their city, their state and their country.

There should not be scorn when one is idealistic,  but there should be when elected officials do not live up to the same ideals they profess.  

France....hmmm ok, where to start.............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Clearly all of the people involved in these incidents (men and women) displayed moral and ethical weakness, but why should this particular combination of weaknesses cause immediate and complete collapse of public trust only in this country?&#8221; </p>
<p>Answ:  Perhaps we hold a higher standard than other countries,  back in the day of being involved in sports, both in high school and college, we were told that we had to have a higher standard as athletes, why shouldnt this be held the same for elected officials.  We didnt elect them to be doing monkey biz, just govt. biz.</p>
<p>&#8220;Why do some in this country object to Senator Clinton as a candidate because of her husband’s past indiscretions, but continue to support the current President spending $12B a week in Iraq?&#8221;</p>
<p>Answ:  I object to the senator, not because of the former president&#8217;s indiscretions, but because she didnt have the moral courage to leave him back in his days as the Gov. of Arkansas.  She used his coattails to ride into office, the whole time he was &#8220;sitting behind a desk&#8221;.  I object to her qualifications, having not served a full term in the Senate, and having resided only in the White House.  I object to her as a represenative of the people of NY, when she had never lived there prior, except to sneak in the minimum time needed to run for office.  But hey, they elected her.</p>
<p>&#8220;Why do we get all bent out of shape when the Mayor of Detroit’s affair (which he denied) is revealed through public disclosure of text messages, but support the President’s call for amnesty for the phone companies which allowed the government to illegally look at everyone’s text messages (and email, and phone conversations)?&#8221;</p>
<p>Answ:  I get &#8220;bent ouf of shape&#8221; because the man lied under oath.  He didnt just deny the accusations,  he swore in court that they were not true.  I got bent out of shape several years ago when Bubba did the same thing.  I got bent out of shape as a child when Nixon did the same thing. I had hoped for better from Newt.  If you lied in court, or I for that matter, you wouldnt be running around saying a lynch mob was after you, you would be sitting in jail.</p>
<p>These people are elected to represent those who take the time to make decisions and vote them in.  Their behavior should not be an issue in preventing them in doing the job that they were sent to do.  They do not represent me, and they do nothing but bring shame on themselves, their families, their city, their state and their country.</p>
<p>There should not be scorn when one is idealistic,  but there should be when elected officials do not live up to the same ideals they profess.  </p>
<p>France&#8230;.hmmm ok, where to start&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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