Desperation

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What happens when the façade crumbles and all you’re left with is your own lies?

We may finally be approaching that point with this President.

The Trump administration started with a big lie about the size of his inauguration crowds. Now 10K lies later, his behavior is common knowledge but it continues.

The Mexican foreign minister said that no secret immigration deal exists and that there is no promise to buy more of our agricultural products.

A Homeland Security watchdog retired early after admitting that their audits of disaster response were altered to reflect the President’s claim of effectiveness.

He fired his own pollsters because their leaked polls contradicted his narrative that he was winning. Instead he blames the media.

He even denies that he said things that were recorded. He did call the Duchess of Sussex “nasty”. He was the person the appearing in the Access Hollywood tapes. He did tell an ABC interviewer that he would accept opposition research from a foreign power rather than notify the FBI because “everybody does it”.

He lied about considering firing Mueller and then lied about telling his chief counsel to lie about being told to fire Mueller.

He lied about his payoffs to coverup affairs.

Some people say that it doesn’t matter, that “everybody does it” and that he’s just a “salesman” and all salesmen lie.

The fact is that everybody doesn’t do it.

But worse, the suggestion that lying is OK is damaging to our moral fabric as a society. What happens when we can no longer hold our leaders accountable for telling the truth?

Yet that’s where we are. Truth has become a morally irrelevant term. The religious right has abdicated their normal role of being a moral scold and as a result lost all future credibility for any culture discussion.

Truth is now defined for some by tribe or affiliation. Truth is what agrees with your fundamental world view rather that your world view being informed by truth.

In a country that has some respect for the truth, people like Lenny Pozner would not have to go to court in order to prove that his son was murdered at Sandy Hook. Instead he has had to take conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones to court because his Infowars site was making money suggesting that Pozner’s son never died and Pozner was a paid actor. He also had to take the publisher of James Fetzer and Mike Palacek’s book entitled “Nobody died at Sandy Hook” to court to get them take the book off the shelves. They claimed it was a FEMA drill. He had to pressure Facebook to remove conspiracy theory videos that were leading to death threats against him. Lucy Roberts was sentenced to five months in prison for threatening Pozner and was banned from visiting any conspiracy theory websites in the future.

Lenny Pozner wasn’t interested in being a public figure. He was just a grieving parent that was forced to fight back against this culture of situational truth.

The scope of the hypocrisy is honestly breathtaking.

Trump says that the economy is great and getting better while at the same time browbeating the Fed to lower interest rates. The Fed raises rates when the economy is good in order to give themselves room to lower interest rates when the economy is bad. The stock market is going up because they anticipate that the Fed will soon lower interest rates. Why? Because the economy is getting worse.

Trump says that China is paying the tariffs that he has raised. At the same time he has a system where US businesses, who are really paying the tariffs, can request exemptions. If China WERE paying the tariffs, there would be no need for exemptions.

Trump claims that he didn’t receive any help from the Russians in 2016. Senate Majority Leader McConnell is blocking a vote on bi-partisan bills which would clarify what candidates should do in 2020 if they learn of any attempts by foreign powers to influence an election.

IMHO Trump and the Republican Party share blame for this culture because they have promoted it for political gain.

This is very dangerous territory and it is exactly where Trump wants us to be.

This culture allows Trump to claim that he can and would accept election help from a foreign power because “everybody does it”.

When asked whether or not a president can obstruct justice, he responded, “I run the country”.

This is the same response that Nixon gave to David Frost when he said that a President couldn’t do anything illegal because he gets to define what is legal.

Both Trump and Nixon felt that Article II of the constitution provides the President broad powers. That is basis for Trump and was the basis for Nixon’s claims that no crimes were committed.

There is no larger reason to conclude that Trump is unfit for office. He has expressed a willingness to do whatever he needs to do to stay in office. He has even suggested that he might defy the constitution and run for a third term if he has the opportunity. His motivations, in this case, don’t matter. His willingness to state that he was willing to challenge the constitutional term limit says all that we need to hear.

He simply can’t be trusted with the immense power that we have chosen to give the President.

17 Responses to “Desperation”

  1. Keith says:

    https://apple.news/A2yiyxEZ3T6ikkfy3QZg1Mw

    I enjoyed the debate this evening…
    As much as I agree with many things senator Warren has to say things like this are what would prevent a vote for her. And in an interview with Chris Mathews she would answer what the top income tax rate should be, individual, or how she would collect the 2% on wealth above $50 million. Chris almost seemed incredulous asking how the government would know where to good looking. She said “come on, we’re only talking about 75,000 people.”

  2. Jeff Beamsley says:

    https://apple.news/A2yiyxEZ3T6ikkfy3QZg1Mw

    I enjoyed the debate this evening…
    As much as I agree with many things senator Warren has to say things like this are what would prevent a vote for her. And in an interview with Chris Mathews she would answer what the top income tax rate should be, individual, or how she would collect the 2% on wealth above $50 million. Chris almost seemed incredulous asking how the government would know where to good looking. She said “come on, we’re only talking about 75,000 people.”

    I don’t think that Warren will get the nomination, in part because her stance on medicare for all. What her campaign IS doing, however, is forcing all of the other candidates to be more specific about their plans.

    But this is what the primary is SUPPOSED to be all about. Put big ideas out there and let the voters decide what is most important to them. All of her ideas are well researched including the fractional tax on the wealthiest individuals in the country. The claim that the IRS would not be able to figure this out is specious. Matthews claim could be made for ALL taxes collected by the government. People regularly attempt to defraud the government and many end up either paying big fines or going to jail. It is just a question of whether the government has the will to enforce whatever rules the Congress decides to pass.

    BTW, most of those wealthiest individuals support additional taxes on their wealth.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/12/most-millionaires-support-tax-on-wealth-above-50-million-cnbc-survey.html

    So this sets up an interesting debate with Republicans who will definitely disagree. It will force them to defend the ultra-wealthy from additional taxes while a majority of them have said they were willing to pay the tax. This will certainly strengthen the Democrats claim that Republican really are the party of and for the rich.

  3. Jeff Beamsley says:

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/06/25/democrats-trump-election-2020-227215

    I saw this article.

    I’m in general agreement.

    It’s a playbook for how Republicans could structure their campaign.

    1. Hold firmly to the idea that Twitter is the beating heart of the real Democratic Party.

    I think that the Dems are on to this. Read an article that documented that most democratic twitter users are Bernie bros. We’ll see tonight, but right now BECAUSE of the rise of Warren, the Bernie bros appear to be losing influence.

    2. Embrace the weird.

    See my previous comment. There are a lot of candidates. Once of the ways to distinguish yourself from the pack is to bring some new ideas and see what sticks. Clearly the passion that Inslee brings to climate change has caused that issue to rise among all candidates.

    Trump made a lot of promises in his first campaign too. Very few of them were kept. At the moment it appears that he is planning to run the same campaign in 2020 that he ran in 2016 with all the same promises. We’ll see if voters are willing to hold him accountable for failing to deliver.

    3. Keep promising lots of free stuff and don’t sweat paying for it.

    This again depends on whether voters are willing to hold Trump accountable for running up a big debt. All of Warren’s plans include revenue sources. We’ll see whether that precision will force all the Democratic candidates to describe how they plan to fund their big ideas. I’m hoping that the campaign WILL move in that direction because Trump will find it difficult to defend his first four years.

    4. Go ahead and abolish private health insurance.

    See above. Voters will decide whether or not they are willing to take this big step or not. The math makes sense. It might also make political sense, if only because Republicans have failed to either replace or improve Obamacare. The best way to protect expanding healthcare may be to simply eliminate private insurance. That said, Germany has a public/private system that appears to work well. Perhaps we end up there as a compromise.

    What this reminds me of are the years running up to the civil war. For several election cycles, voters were reluctant to elect an anti-slavery president because of the possibility of civil war. It was clear that slave states would not voluntarily give up their way of life. Finally, the anti-slavery movement gained sufficient traction as well as the perceived threat of new states being added to the “slavery” block; that voters decided to call the question. They elected Lincoln and the country went to war.

    I don’t know that we are at that point yet with regard to universal healthcare, but we are clearly a lot closer than we were four years ago BECAUSE Trump failed to deliver on his promise to replace Obamacare with something better.

    5. Spend time talking about reparations.

    I don’t think that reparations will become a big issue. I think social justice IS a big issue. We’ll see whether it becomes one of the biggest issues in this campaign. If it does, it will surely push Trump even further into the white privilege corner. Then voters will have yet another chance to decide what kind of country we want to be.

    6. Trump thinks that immigration and the crisis at the border are winning issues for him. They aren’t. But you can turn that around.

    Every Democratic candidate recognizes that immigration is an important issue. You can also see that only a few candidates were willing to decriminalize border crossing. Just as Inslee is going to influence the climate change debate, Castro will influence the immigration debate. We’ll see whether voters are willing to go that far.

    7. Lots more focus on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

    Her name didn’t come up once in the Democratic debate last night. I suspect she won’t be heard from tonight either. Beto is probably the closest generational candidate to AOC. FWIW, he did not do well last night.

    Whomever becomes the nominee will need to make peace with AOC, but many of the issues that she supports are already widely shared among all the candidates.

    8. Socialism.

    See above. You didn’t hear that word last night either. Bernie is the only one who is going to use that word and I believe that the moment has already passed for him. I believe that even the Bernie bros will come around and realize that their votes are needed to get Trump out of office.

    9. Turn the abortion issue from a winner into a loser.

    You could see that even Warren was willing to give a nuanced answer with regard to late term abortions. Dems can easily position themselves to defend Roe without getting dragged down into a late term abortion debate. The Republican position on healthcare leaves them wide open on the abortion debate. Republicans have and will claim that the best healthcare is delivered when the government does not interfere in the relationship between a physician and their patient (very old and inaccurate criticism of Obamacare). Democrats don’t have to do anything more than point out the hypocrisy of that statement when the conversation between the physician and patient concerns terminating a pregnancy.

    10. You can also turn a winner into a loser on the issue of guns.

    Warren had the best answer here. There are obvious things that should be done which have broad public support. Beyond that, we should treat GUN VIOLENCE rather than GUN OWNERSHIP as a public health issue. We should repeal all of the NRA supported prohibitions regarding gathering data on gun violence, determine root causes, and then test solutions to determine what further measures will be most effective.

    I suspect that this approach will bubble to the top for most candidates.

    11. As you try to get Americans more alarmed about Trump’s attacks on democratic norms, make sure you talk as much as possible about your support for court-packing.

    This is not an issue right now. It could be an issue if the SCOTUS does something extreme during the next year. I believe that the court understands that too. That’s why you see “conservative” judges siding with the liberal majority on specific decisions.

    The reality is that you need a Senate majority to pursue any plan to pack the courts.

    I don’t think that Dems will gain a Senate majority on the issue of using that majority to pack the courts.

  4. Keith says:

    For the record I am for higher taxes on most everyone including the wealthy. I am for the Bill Clinton tax rates but not 28% on long term cap gains. I am for the Corp tax rate atbor near where it currently is.

    I am opposed, today, of a wealth tax.

    Senator Warren says many things that are just commons sense as you have pointed out an I agree. Then out of nowhere in her interview with Mathews she said. “Our economy needs structural change!” Again our economy is the best in the world. I’m not certain anyone would argue with that. She says we need to structurally change it. Wow.

    My opinion the dems focus so much on 10-20 million people and forget the other 300 million…

  5. Jeff Beamsley says:

    Senator Warren says many things that are just commons sense as you have pointed out an I agree. Then out of nowhere in her interview with Mathews she said. “Our economy needs structural change!” Again our economy is the best in the world. I’m not certain anyone would argue with that. She says we need to structurally change it. Wow.

    Here are a few facts about our economy.

    1. The fastest quarterly growth rate in recent history was not under Trump. The fastest four quarters of growth over the past ten years or so were under Obama.

    2. The best sustained economic growth according to most economists was during the post war 50’s.

    3. Stock market gains did not match those during the last years of the Obama administration and stocks have been flat over the last 18 months.

    4. The trends for both lower unemployment rates and higher wages both started during the Obama administration. Trump can certainly claim credit, however, for the continued improvement of both of those metrics – though African American unemployment has actually risen over the past year from an historic low of 5.9% to a peak of 7% in February.

    When Chuck Todd challenged Trump on his claims, all Trump could actually claim was a significant increase in optimism during his term.

    As far as our world ranking, both China and India are growing faster than we are. They are both on track to surpass the US in GDP in the next 10 years.

    The reasons why are simple. They have more people, they are investing more in education than we are, and they are investing more in automation that we are.

    So please provide some detail on why you believe that our economy is “the best in the world”.

    As far as structural change, I believe your bias may be showing.

    Warren has said she is “capitalist to the bone”.

    She is not suggesting that we replace capitalism with socialism. She does support a government supported healthcare system, but that’s only because she can prove that private insurance is inefficient, fails to delivery universal coverage, and fails to deliver any measurable improvement in outcomes to justify it’s costs. If we are going to be globally competitive, we need a cost and outcomes competitive healthcare system. All of our global competitors have cheaper better healthcare systems. The Trump administration claims that our tax and regulatory environment hamstrung our industries. Well guess what, so does our healthcare system.

    Replacing our existing healthcare system with one that is more efficient, covers more people for less money, and delivers better results is ONE of the things she has said we need to do to improve our economy.

    Our economy regularly requires structural change. That’s what keeps us competitive. She is simply calling out the reality that we have allowed some of the companies in our economy to get so big that they are preventing innovation rather than encouraging it. She’s right.

    The Clinton economy changed from manufacturing to technology. That change made us the world leader (at least for a while) in both productivity and innovation. It also created the beginnings of a massive manufacturing disruption that we are still working through. Bush II radically deregulated that economy (another restructuring), encouraged the growth of global financial institutions (another restructuring), and then watched it all collapse because capitalism can’t regulate itself. Obama restructured the global financial system preventing a global depression. That restructuring included introducing sensible regulations to PREVENT financial institutions from getting “too big to fail” again. Trump is attempting to restructure global trade by replacing multinational trade agreements with bilateral ones. He also promised to revive domestic coal, steel, and manufacturing by protecting them from global competition. He has failed to deliver on that promise so far.

    Warren wants to invest heavily in making the US the leader in climate change mitigation. I think that’s a great idea. That will require us to be a leader in moving away from fossil-based fuels as well as creating new technologies that satisfy our energy needs without adding to the climate change problem.

    She also wants to break up big tech and pharma companies that dominate their respective industries. I think that’s a great idea too. Bill Gates famously said that in the software business you have to be prepared to eat your young if you want to remain on the cutting edge. Microsoft’s failure to move away from their desktop business gave Google the opportunity to dominate the mobile operating system business with Android. Gates has said, that was his greatest failure. Breaking up IBM was what ultimately led to the rise of Microsoft. Breaking up ATT led to the rise of the internet, cable TV, and the mobile phone business. Breaking up Facebook, Amazon, Google, and Apple will ultimately create another cycle of innovation in this country – which is what we are going to need if we are going to retain our leadership position.

    My opinion the dems focus so much on 10-20 million people and forget the other 300 million…

    Sure didn’t sound like that last night, but I agree that the Democrats have to offer working people a better deal in order to win back their support. I heard a lot of good ideas on how to do that.

  6. Keith says:

    I am a big fan of Kamala. President I don’t know but she single handedly knockednout Joe. Side note – where was this scrutiny of Mr Joe for 8 years as VP? Stunning really.

    Last night exposed the overall weakness of the dem party. The top candidates were there minus Mrs Warren. They all mostly yelled, were angry, and most importantly there was ZERO humor. Can’t win that way. Highlighting this is Trump makes a joke after a stupid question from a reporter and the whole liberal media is going nuts.

    If this is still Obama’s economy then Clinton’s was Reagan’s. I mentioned this MANY times to you Obama’s economy should have been better. Old ground and no use covering it again.

    Also to the Media’s lack of honestly and creating a narritive. Kamala Harris is not and African American. Why do they insist on calling her one?

  7. Jeff Beamsley says:

    I am a big fan of Kamala. President I don’t know but she single handedly knockednout Joe. Side note – where was this scrutiny of Mr Joe for 8 years as VP? Stunning really.

    May be a little hasty to count Joe out. If his struggle with the issue of school busing affects his support in the African American community, then he is in trouble.

    As far as “scrutiny” for Joe, four years ago Obama was running unopposed. It would have been Romney’s responsibility to dig up dirt on Joe, but any questions regarding his support for civil rights would have immediately been answered by Obama. In other words, Obama’s endorsement inoculated Joe from any of those claims.

    The reality is that no one is questioning Joe’s support for racial equality today either, but he failed to provide a credible answer to the attack from Harris questioning why he opposed busing 50 years ago. A better answer would have been an apology like Mayor Pete. Here’s what Joe could have said,” Kamala, I’m sorry for any pain I may have caused you. That busing happened 50 years ago when we were all trying to figure out the best way to tear down institutional segregation. I honestly believed that the shortest path to school integration was through state government. I was wrong and I apologize. But I won’t apologize for my lifelong commitment to oppose racism in all its forms. This President has proven how fragile our gains can be if we let our guard down for even a moment. The single most important thing we can do today to advance the cause of equality for everyone is to defeat Donald Trump, and that’s why I’m running.”

    The fact that he DIDN’T have a response like that ready is more troubling to me than the episode that Harris brought up. Someone who has been in public life as long as Joe, has hundreds of these sorts of things in his past. Getting legislation passed is not a pretty business, but Joe can turn those things to his advantage too. For example, the question of working with segregationists or making the Bush tax breaks permanent, here’s an answer for Joe, “As the past couple of administrations have shown, getting real bi-partisan legislation passed these days is a difficult task. People have forgotten that compromise requires working with people with whom you may have deep disagreements. It also requires giving something up in order to get something else in return. It’s easy to blame the failures of government on the other guy. It’s always easier in hindsight to criticize any compromise as having given up too much. It’s a lot harder to take the political risks required to actually get stuff done for country. It is never perfect, but I’d rather be accused of coddling racists in order to get their votes, if their votes helped me get something valuable done for the american people. I’m also willing to take the heat for an imperfect deal, if the result is something that gets our government working. I’m here to get something done. If voters would prefer more gridlock and partisan warfare, they should vote for somebody else.”

    He didn’t say that either. That’s what bothers me.

    Last night exposed the overall weakness of the dem party. The top candidates were there minus Mrs Warren. They all mostly yelled, were angry, and most importantly there was ZERO humor. Can’t win that way.

    Disagree. It is a big tent. There are plenty of views and plenty of candidates willing to express them. The nature of the responses were the result of the nature of the questions. As far as humor, I think Williamson provided plenty of humor.

    Highlighting this is Trump makes a joke after a stupid question from a reporter and the whole liberal media is going nuts.

    What “joke” was that?

    Maybe this one about his dislike for journalists?

    “Get rid of them. Fake news is a great term, isn’t it?” Trump said. “You don’t have this problem in Russia, but we do.”

    “We also have,” Putin answered, in English. “It’s the same.”

    The difference is that in Russia, if Putin doesn’t like you, you die. So when Trump referenced “Get rid of them”, it was NOT a very funny joke.

    From the Wash Post.

    According to the Columbia Journalism Review, 59 journalists were murdered in Russia between 1992 and this year. And the World Press Freedom Index puts Russia near the bottom of the list as a place where journalists are safe and can do their jobs. (The United States, shamefully, has dropped on the list, barely ranking in the top 50.)

    Or maybe it was this one,

    “U.S. President Donald Trump has appeared to make light of Russian election interference during a meeting with the country’s leader, Vladimir Putin. A smirking Mr. Trump wagged his finger at the Russian president and said: ‘Don’t meddle in the election, please.’”

    If that was the joke, it was on the American people. The Russians did meddle in the election. Putin denied it. Trump makes a joke about it, and Putin has free reign to do it all over again in 2020 with a President who has said he would gladly accept the help.

    If this is still Obama’s economy then Clinton’s was Reagan’s. I mentioned this MANY times to you Obama’s economy should have been better. Old ground and no use covering it again.

    I was asking what you meant when you said it was the best economy in the world. If you meant it was historically the best, you’re wrong. If you meant it has the fastest global growth rate, you’re wrong there too. If you meant it has historically the lowest unemployment rate, that’s true, but the bulk of the improvement in the unemployment rate from it’s high point came from somebody else. Trump has improved an already robust economy and financed it all with debt. The CBO is predicting an “unprecedented debt” of 144% of GDP by 2049. Seems like any mention of the economic growth under Trump HAS to include that.

    Also to the Media’s lack of honestly and creating a narritive. Kamala Harris is not and African American. Why do they insist on calling her one?

    Welcome to the world of Republican propaganda.

    If you are interested, here’s an article on how this lie was spread.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/28/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-kamala-harris.html

    You have now officially participated in this spread.

    Questioning a persons race is no different than questioning their religion.

    Unless you are prepared to have people question your faith, I suggest that you stop questioning how people SELF-IDENTIFY with regard to race.

    I have no doubt that Ms. Harris experienced discrimination during her life because of the COLOR OF HER SKIN. I have no doubt that she was CHOSEN by her school board to be part of a group of “negro” students who were bused to a predominantly “Caucasian” school. There were also “Caucasian” students who were bused to “negro” schools.

    BTW, our friends over at Gateway Pundit also tried to discredit Harris by publishing pictures of the high school yearbook which showed that the high school was integrated as early as 1963. At that time Berkeley had only one HS, so it was integrated. But the elementary schools were not. Ergo busing.

    If there is any evidence that Harris has ever denied her racial heritage, please produce it. Otherwise, stop spreading this stuff. The only dishonesty here are the people have chosen to spread this ugly lie and you should be ashamed. Even Eric deleted his tweet. I suggest you do the same.

  8. Keith says:

    Only time for one comment.
    I asked why the media insists on calling her an African American. She is not and the times article accurately states that. I don’t question her at all. I continued to hear cnn and msnbc commentators refer to her that way. I know some about her, like her, and know her mother and fathers back ground. I just thought it interesting they referred you her as African American when she clearly isn’t. Can you take a stab at why? I simple found it curious. Why not refer to her as a women of color. (Not sure why that’s important anyway if you want equality) I know nothing about any tweet or Trump etc. You can apologize to me at a later date for your inference….. 😄

  9. Jeff Beamsley says:

    Only time for one comment.
    I asked why the media insists on calling her an African American. She is not and the times article accurately states that.

    Here’s what the NYT says.

    The facts are these: Ms. Harris, a first-term senator from California and a former prosecutor, is the biracial daughter of a Jamaican father and Indian mother. She has faced repeated questions about her race throughout her career, but has at times resisted being put into one category or another. In an interview with The Washington Post this year, Ms. Harris called herself “an American,” defying calls at various points for her to choose.

    “My point was: I am who I am,” Ms. Harris said at the time. “I’m good with it. You might need to figure it out, but I’m fine with it.”

    On Thursday evening, Ms. Harris was more forceful in relaying her experiences with racism. “Growing up, my sister and I had to deal with the neighbor who told us her parents couldn’t play with us because she — because we were black,” Ms. Harris said.

    That characterization is VERY different from the slur that Ali Alexander tweeted and DJTjr. retweeted.

    “Kamala Harris is implying she is descended from American Black Slaves,” Ali Alexander, a member of a right-wing constellation of media personalities, wrote on Twitter. “She’s not. She comes from Jamaican Slave Owners. That’s fine. She’s not an American Black. Period.”

    The issue IS NOT what her racial heritage is.

    The issue is whether or not she personally experienced racially motivated discrimination because of the color of her skin. Every indication is that she did. That’s because those who are willing to treat people differently because of the color of their skin DON’T CARE about ancestry.

    The larger issue is whether or not this personal experience of racism as well as her political career qualify her to represent the interests of voters who have also experienced racism.

    If you aren’t questioning either or these positions, then why question how the media chooses to define her racial heritage?

    I know some about her, like her, and know her mother and fathers back ground. I just thought it interesting they referred you her as African American when she clearly isn’t. Can you take a stab at why? I simple found it curious. Why not refer to her as a women of color. (Not sure why that’s important anyway if you want equality)

    I think it is particularly ironic that a white person is trying to parse what the word African American means.

    Harris doesn’t even enter into that debate. As the NYT article points out, she prefers to call herself an American. But she also doesn’t shy away from calling herself “black”.

    As far as the media are concerned, African American DOES NOT reflect heritage. It is the same as saying “black”. It is a function of skin color, not parentage.

    As I recall, you didn’t object to Obama being called the country’s first African American president even though he has a bi-racial background and his father WAS NOT an American or the descendant of American slaves.

    To point out how ridiculous your argument is, what would you call someone who has dark skin, was born in Africa, but becomes a United States citizen? A “naturalized” African American?

    We have a racial shorthand in this country, for better or worse. White, Black/African American, Brown/Latino, Indian/Native American, Chinese/Asian, and Indian/SE Asian. Regardless of their ancestry, we put everyone into one of those categories. Those who are bi-racial (e.g. Obama) are black.

    I know nothing about any tweet or Trump etc. You can apologize to me at a later date for your inference….. 😄

    You learned of this from someone. It is too coincidental to suggest that you came up with this question at the EXACT same moment as this meme was spreading through the Internet.

    What you did is take it at face value and spread it rather than doing a little bit of research to find out where it came from. That’s the problem.

    As a result, you became part of what is turning out to be a deliberate coordinated attempt to take down Harris by suggesting that she is an imposter. You didn’t call her an imposter, but you suggested that at least the media was mislabeling her as an African American. This certainly implies that either the media or Harris were trying to use a label that they didn’t “deserve” for some political benefit.

    This activity caught the attention of Caroline Orr, a Virginia-based researcher who studies disinformation and elections. Mr. Alexander is a real person, but Ms. Orr hinted that the activity may have been the work of Twitter bots meant to spread his misinformation.

    “A lot of suspect accounts are pushing the ‘Kamala Harris is not Black’ narrative tonight,” Ms. Orr wrote on Twitter. “It’s everywhere and it has all the signs of being a coordinated/artificial operation.”

    Whether deliberate or not, you were part of that operation.

  10. Keith says:

    Jeff,
    You must learn to trust. It is coincidence that someone tweeted it. I thought it immediately. I did wonder why President Obama was more commonly referred to as black then white. Just like Tiger Woods was always, at first celebrated as black, although VJ Sing a much darker skinned golfer, was not? I agree with and am EXCITED Kamala views herself as American. So do I. I was simple wondering why two seconds after the debate the words African American rolled off their tongues. You are simply missing my point. And by the way being a woman of color hasn’t held Kamala back one bit.

    Chris Mathews interviewed her after and asked how hurtful it was to be told the other kids couldn’t play with her and how she overcame that adversity, how do you deal with that. At first, my impression only, she looked at him like he was nuts. She said something to the effect of, you just do. Again, no effect on her it’s the media and those with a cause that want to go back 50 years and wollow those days. She has clearly moved on.

    If I follow your logic of identity; I am white. I grew up spending much of my time with blacks grades 7-12. I played college football. My position room at times was me and overwhelmingly blacks. They are some of my closest friends. Professionally I have had to make several decisions that choose between black and white employees, In The DEEP SOUTH at times where the better employee for the company was black. I choose with zero regard for race. Try that!!! I rode across Mississippi with a black women one evening trying to advance her career and stood at the door of a restaurant while no one would come and wait on us. She wanted to leave, I refused. The patrons there seemingly couldn’t take their eyes off us. This only scratches the surface of my experiences in this regard. I could go on and on. I have heard “n-lover” directed at me many, many times. It never bothered me in the least. In my mind their comments were and are a reflection of who they are and has nothing to do with me. If I choose your logic or that of the media, do I get to identify as African American? Of course not!!!! We should all follow Kamala’s lead and call ourselves Americans!!!!

  11. Keith says:

    https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/2019/july/leader-of-national-hispanic-christian-group-tours-border-facility-pushes-back-against-reports-of-mistreatment-of-migrant-children

    If you google “Hispanic Pastors tour detention centers you get this article and one by Fox. Where are all the others?

  12. Jeff Beamsley says:

    And by the way being a woman of color hasn’t held Kamala back one bit.

    Curious what you mean by that. If Harris has said that, please post it. Otherwise, this is simply your interpretation of her career. It has not basis in fact with regard to the challenges which she had to overcome and her thoughts with regard to what she might have been able to accomplish if she hadn’t faced those challenges.

    Chris Mathews interviewed her after and asked how hurtful it was to be told the other kids couldn’t play with her and how she overcame that adversity, how do you deal with that. At first, my impression only, she looked at him like he was nuts. She said something to the effect of, you just do. Again, no effect on her it’s the media and those with a cause that want to go back 50 years and wollow those days. She has clearly moved on.

    It is a nice thought, but I suspect that more accurate description of the “look” is the following. She is an experienced politician in a world where she KNOWS how important it is to stay on message and avoid offhand remarks that end up having unintended consequences. She knows that there are MANY people lying in a wait to pounce on her first misstep. Instead she simply didn’t answer the question because it was something she didn’t see any value in talking about.

    If I follow your logic of identity; I am white. I grew up spending much of my time with blacks grades 7-12. I played college football. My position room at times was me and overwhelmingly blacks. They are some of my closest friends. Professionally I have had to make several decisions that choose between black and white employees, In The DEEP SOUTH at times where the better employee for the company was black. I choose with zero regard for race. Try that!!! I rode across Mississippi with a black women one evening trying to advance her career and stood at the door of a restaurant while no one would come and wait on us. She wanted to leave, I refused. The patrons there seemingly couldn’t take their eyes off us. This only scratches the surface of my experiences in this regard. I could go on and on. I have heard “n-lover” directed at me many, many times. It never bothered me in the least. In my mind their comments were and are a reflection of who they are and has nothing to do with me. If I choose your logic or that of the media, do I get to identify as African American? Of course not!!!! We should all follow Kamala’s lead and call ourselves Americans!!!!

    Thanks for sharing that. I agree that we would ALL be much better if we were able to put the issues of race behind us…BUT…you and I are not the ones who get to make that decision. We are both trying to live colorblind lives. We will actually BE in a color blind country when those who experience discrimination and racism in their lives because of the color of their skin no longer have those experiences. We will live in a color blind country when the prison racial population reflects the country’s racial makeup. We will live in a color blind country when the racial makeup of police forces reflects the racial makeup of their community AND when those police treat all of those they come in contact with in the same way. We will live in a color blind country when parents of dark skinned children no longer have to warn their kids about how to act when they are approached by the police. I can tell you from personal experience that we are not there yet.

  13. Jeff Beamsley says:

    https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/2019/july/leader-of-national-hispanic-christian-group-tours-border-facility-pushes-back-against-reports-of-mistreatment-of-migrant-children

    If you google “Hispanic Pastors tour detention centers you get this article and one by Fox. Where are all the others?

    I don’t know why this particular story didn’t get picked up by the mainstream press.

    I can tell you why other stories that appeared on Fox and other unrealiable news sites didn’t show up in the WashPost, NYT, NPR, or Christian Science Monitor. It was because when those news organizations researched the story, they couldn’t confirm the events as described. Pastor Rodriguez visited only the Clint location. Several Democratic Congresspeople and reporters visited that same site and other sites during this same period of time and came away with a very different story.

    The key part of Pastor Rodriguez’s story was the claim by the people operating that facility that nothing had changed. We know that the facility had previously had several hundred kids. Most of them were moved out. Now there are only 70 or so and they are recent arrivals. I would hope that the facility gets cleaned every day. But that is all speculation.

    What is NOT speculation is the evidence of EXTREME bias among some of the border patrol agents.

    Whether you like AOC or not, border agents posting vile made-up images of her to a private facebook group is clearly over the line. Hopefully you agree that there is no place agents who harbor bigoted views of immigrants or those who have differing political views.

  14. Jeff Beamsley says:

    Here’s another reason why perhaps Pastor Rodriguez’s story didn’t get more play.

    The Office of the Inspector General for the Department of Homeland Security confirmed the conditions earlier reported by court appointed lawyers and more recently by elected officials.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/02/us/politics/border-center-migrant-detention.html

    Overcrowded, squalid conditions are more widespread at migrant centers along the southern border than initially revealed, the Department of Homeland Security’s independent watchdog said Tuesday. Its report describes standing-room-only cells, children without showers and hot meals, and detainees clamoring desperately for release.

    On a related matter, the acting head of homeland security acknowledged reports of border patrol bias shared on facebook.

    On Wednesday morning, Kevin K. McAleenan, the acting secretary at the Department of Homeland Security, cited “disturbing & inexcusable social media activity that allegedly includes active Border Patrol personnel.”

    This appears to be a situation where at least some in the border patrol and perhaps some in the Dept of Homeland security are taking their cues from the President rather than their own chain of command. This is just another example of why words, particular when then come from the President, matter.

  15. Keith says:

    As to challenges Kamala May have had, Shea rose to the top of her field and now finds herself a one if the favorites to be the dem nominee. We all have challenges and nothing effects her.

    Now I’m confused and I’m quite sure Joe is also
    https://apnews.com/586b1e81cb684654b0cf689b9074c1cb

  16. Jeff Beamsley says:

    As to challenges Kamala May have had, Shea rose to the top of her field and now finds herself a one if the favorites to be the dem nominee. We all have challenges and nothing effects her.

    Now I’m confused and I’m quite sure Joe is also
    https://apnews.com/586b1e81cb684654b0cf689b9074c1cb

    Clearly her busing answer is affecting her. I can appreciate her position, but her answer to the question clearly reflected the challenge that Joe was dealing with. Parents in local school districts care about whether the federal government is going to step in and mandate busing. While we don’t have nearly the level of institutional school segregation that existed in the 70’s, many schools are defacto segregated because the communities they serve are segregated. I suspect that either Joe or the moderators in the next debate are going to bring this answer up to her and give her an opportunity to respond to what appears to be a hypocrisy.

    By comparison, here’s a video of Mayor Pete’s response when an attendee at one of his Iowa events suggested the solution to the racial problems in South Bend would come when blacks stopped committing crimes and stopped using drugs.

    To his credit, Mayor Pete, speaking to an all-white audience cut right to the core of that racist suggestion.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pete-buttigieg-shuts-down-racist-question_n_5d1f4285e4b04c4814124d50

    What is bothersome here is that I don’t think that the person asking this question thought it was racist. The statistics certainly indicate that there are more black people in jail proportionately than white people. The reality is that when you look at the statistics more closely, black people DO get arrested and ARE sent to jail at a much higher rate than white people for similar offenses. As a result, white people can fall into the trap of blaming black people for their condition including poverty by suggesting that it is the natural consequence of making a bad choice. The reality is WAY more complicated.

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