CNN Republican YouTube Circus
Thursday, November 29th, 2007I’ve come to expect extreme bias in the debates hosted by major networks, and they did not let me down last night. Though the format of last night’s CNN YouTube debate was different than the others, the partiality to the status-quo, establishment candidates was still overtly clear. Some of it was admittedly very comical, though unintended I’m sure.
After almost 30 minutes, allowing Romney and Giuliani bicker about illegal immigration, and giving the other candidates a chance to speak, they finally gave Ron Paul a question, albeit an awful one intended to discredit him. He was asked if he believed the “conspiracies” that many of his supporters believe, regarding plans for a North American Union and the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations). It was a loaded question, but Dr. Paul’s answer couldn’t have been better:
Lew Rockwell made the following comment:
PS: Regarding that first CNN-planted question, the Council on Foreign Relations–to which every candidate on that stage but Ron belongs–is an old, influential pro-big business, pro-war, pro-empire lobbying group. It represents the bipartisan, establishment consensus on interventionism. But ooooh, don’t mention it. And don’t mention the North American Union either. Such matters are not for hoi polloi.
Tancredo’s responses are comically predictable. You know he will somehow tie just about everything to border protection; almost as sure as Giuliani will reference 9/11 or national security. I don’t think Tancredo realizes that there are more problems plaguing this country than illegal immigration.
“Mike, that’s not your money. That’s the taxpayers’ money.” Romney said regarding Huckabee’s use of taxpayer money to pay for schooling of illegal immigrants. That statement almost seemed satirical coming from Romney, who is by no means a fiscal conservative.
Huckabee continues to pull at people’s heart strings with his sermon like responses, void of substance. It’s apparent he is very committed to his faith, and unfortunately, to imposing it on the American people to some degree, but conservatives also need to consider that he is a progressive. I believe he is a good man with good intentions, but his compassion apparently blinds him to the ill effects of government intervention. This was reinforced by his praise of NASA (and his attempt to erroneously make a connection between NASA and many technological achievements) and his encouragement for a massive government program for more space exploration.
When asked if Republicans have forgotten how to control spending, McCain said, yes, “…we came to power in 1994, [to change] the government…and the government changed us.” Ron Paul correctly interjected, the next time he spoke, that McCain’s statement does not apply to him. After 20 years as a congressman, he remains dedicated to his principles of limited government.
Romney, Thompson, and Giuliani gave their disingenuous answers to that question, without laying out specific details of course.
The question, which comes up often in various forms, was “What are the names of the top three federal programs you would reduce in size…” Ron Paul is the ONLY one who can ever fully answer it. He very simply said:
I would like to change Washington, and we could by cutting three programs, such as the Department of Education — Ronald Reagan used to talk about that — Department of Energy, Department of Homeland Security is the biggest bureaucracy we ever had.
And then the inevitable happened: Ron Paul called for a withdrawal from Iraq, thereby inviting a desperate attack from one of the other candidates:
And besides, what we can do is we can have a stronger national defense by changing our foreign policy. Our foreign policy is costing us a trillion dollars, and we can spend most of that or a lot of that money home if we would bring our troops home.
It was McCain this time, and here’s the exchange:
I’m glad Paul pointed out that he receives more donations from military personnel, than any other candidate. I’m no expert on WWII, but from what I understand, it was the United States’ Interventionist foreign policy that led to WWI under the guise of making “the world safe for Democracy,” as Wilson put it — a reason eerily similar a post-hoc reason for going into Iraq. The US, through military involvement in WWI eventually turned over a large portion of Europe to communism. This laid the groundwork for WWII, which we did not remain neutral in. Apparently I’m not the only one who thought Paul came out on top.
Romney said he supports farm subsidies after he scolded Huckabee for frivolously distributing money that isn’t his. Giuliani agrees.
Giuliani was asked about the surfacing of his latest scandal, involving abnormal levels of “security” expenditures during his extramarital affair. He replied that his security follows him everywhere and he can’t discuss the threats that warranted the specific security expenses.
Giuliani then struggled to explain his awful record on the 2nd Amendment. He kept reminding us how important the right to bear arms is, amidst flimsy justifications for his unconstitutional gun regulations.
One of the most awkward moments was when Romney mentioned that he has two guns in his home and they’re owned by his son Josh. Then he interrupts to say “he buys expensive things for me.” I have no idea what that meant. It occurs at about 2:00 into this clip.
I have been careful not to focus too much on Romney’s flip flopping, trying to keep in mind that people change their minds, and that doesn’t necessarily mean they are inconsistent or hypocritical. But after this debate, seeing Romney bobble his answers, I have been convinced otherwise. He CAN NOT give a straight answer to a question. It has become more evident that he is being guided by a lust for power rather than a set of principles — not even a loosely defined, misguided set.
For instance his responses regarding:
Torture (water boarding)
Belief in the Bible
Gays in the military
The last question addressed directly to Ron Paul was a ridiculous one basically asking if he will run as an independent if he does not get the republican nomination. It’s ridiculous because he has been asked this questions so many times within the mainsteam media alone. And he responds the same way every time: He’s focusing on the republican nomination right now and that’s it. He made the best of the question and used the opportunity to discuss the tremendous progress his campaign has been making.
The final question was THIS; because, while our economy is suffering; the value of our currency is being debased; our civil rights are disappearing; people are being tortured, held without trials, denied habeas corpus, spied on and arrested without warrants; our troops(3800+ so far in Iraq alone) and civilians (1,118,000+) are being killed overseas; and we are increasingly plundered by our own elected officials, there should always be time on the debate stage to ask the most corrupt candidate about his support for a particular baseball team. Words cannot describe my disgust.
**update: I forgot to link to the final question video. here it is.