Comments on: Property Rights Up In Smoke http://www.blogsmonroe.com/liberalpolitics/2008/05/09/property-rights-up-in-smoke/ an examination of modern politics from a classical liberal perspective Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:37:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: JL http://www.blogsmonroe.com/liberalpolitics/2008/05/09/property-rights-up-in-smoke/#comment-713 JL Thu, 22 May 2008 11:47:31 +0000 http://www.blogsmonroe.com/liberalpolitics/?p=186#comment-713 smokers are not imposing their choice on nonsmokers by smoking in an establishment where they allow smoking, because the nonsmokers are not obligated to patronize that establishment. They are voluntarily doing so with the foreknowledge that they may be exposing themselves to second hand smoke. The right for a bar or restaurant owner to allow smoking is no different than allowing smoking in your house. a restaurant is someone's property just as a home is. to deny someone the option to smoke (or allow their guests to smoke) in a building they own, is to deny them a fundamental right. the problem that arises when an establishment offers a nonsmoking section that is not completely smoke free is a flaw in the service being advertised by the owner; it isn't a violation of someone's rights anymore than when you buy a product that doesn't meet your expectations. smokers are not imposing their choice on nonsmokers by smoking in an establishment where they allow smoking, because the nonsmokers are not obligated to patronize that establishment. They are voluntarily doing so with the foreknowledge that they may be exposing themselves to second hand smoke.

The right for a bar or restaurant owner to allow smoking is no different than allowing smoking in your house. a restaurant is someone’s property just as a home is. to deny someone the option to smoke (or allow their guests to smoke) in a building they own, is to deny them a fundamental right.

the problem that arises when an establishment offers a nonsmoking section that is not completely smoke free is a flaw in the service being advertised by the owner; it isn’t a violation of someone’s rights anymore than when you buy a product that doesn’t meet your expectations.

]]> By: KS555 http://www.blogsmonroe.com/liberalpolitics/2008/05/09/property-rights-up-in-smoke/#comment-712 KS555 Thu, 22 May 2008 02:45:33 +0000 http://www.blogsmonroe.com/liberalpolitics/?p=186#comment-712 Don't the people that smoke in these establishments impose their choice on those who choose not to smoke? Surely no nonsmoker is obligated to go to restaurants, bars, etc. where smoking is allowed; however, not smoking is allowed too, and if I choose not to smoke, I'm not imposing on the smokers-- whereas, if they choose to smoke, they are imposing on my personal decision to not smoke, which is my right. If only the smoke would remain in the smoking section... Don’t the people that smoke in these establishments impose their choice on those who choose not to smoke? Surely no nonsmoker is obligated to go to restaurants, bars, etc. where smoking is allowed; however, not smoking is allowed too, and if I choose not to smoke, I’m not imposing on the smokers– whereas, if they choose to smoke, they are imposing on my personal decision to not smoke, which is my right. If only the smoke would remain in the smoking section…

]]> By: CG http://www.blogsmonroe.com/liberalpolitics/2008/05/09/property-rights-up-in-smoke/#comment-701 CG Sat, 10 May 2008 00:43:53 +0000 http://www.blogsmonroe.com/liberalpolitics/?p=186#comment-701 As much as I choose not to be around smokers, I will defend to the death, not only their right to smoke, but the rights of business owners to allow them to do so! This is outrageous and frightening legislation. As much as I choose not to be around smokers, I will defend to the death, not only their right to smoke, but the rights of business owners to allow them to do so! This is outrageous and frightening legislation.

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